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Algunos dicen que el español que se habla en Colombia, sobre todo lo que se habla en la región alrededor de Bogotá, es uno de los dialectos de espanol más claros en Latinoamerica. Entiendo que es súper subjetiva esta pregunta, porque todos los paises hispanohablantes tienen su propia forma de hablar igual que los paises anglohablantes. Así que déjenme aclarar que no les estoy preguntando que país habla un español “superior” o “inferior” que en otro pais. Simplemente creo que puede haber algunos dialectos de español que serían más faciles de entender para un estudiante que lo aprende como un segundo idioma. Por ejemplo, para mí como anglohablante normalmente es más facil entender a los mexicanos, centroamericanos, y gente del norte de sudamerica y más dificil entender a los del caribe y el cono sur del continente. Eso no quiere decir que la gente del caribe o de paises en el sur de sudamerica hablen un español malo—claro que no—simplemente significa que me puede costar más trabajo entender a ellos. ¿Que experiencias han tenido ustedes que son anglos que aprenden en español como segundo idioma?
By seth.depenning on Aug 26, 2009, 20:04 in Friendly Talkzone.
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theflatline says on Aug 26, 2009, 20:21: Yes. Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on Aug 26, 2009, 22:36: Definitivamente. En particular, el Español de Bogota y el de Medellin en general es muy claro. Cuando se compara con acentos Caribeños y Centro Americanos es mucho mas claro. Aun cuando se compara con acentos de otras partes de Sur América, es mas claro en muchos casos. Claro, se tiene que tomar en cuenta que en algunas regiones de Colombia, se habla el Español con acentos que pueden ser muy difíciles par un extranjero. I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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kenblanquito says on Aug 26, 2009, 23:17: From my limited experiences and from what I have heard from others, yes. Especially if they do not talk too quickly or they are not the real countryside folk nor costenos .
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Dolfi says on Aug 27, 2009, 00:57: Para mi el castellano de Peru y Bolivia es aún mas claro, sobre todo porque no tiene tantas expresiones idiomáticas que el de Colombia. Este sin duda es mucho mejor que el español de Venezuela o Cuba.
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El Expatriado says on Aug 27, 2009, 02:47: Si, mucho mas facil que los Cubanos, por ejemplo. Algunas personas (no indígenas) en Peru hablan tan claro, tambien. Los Venezuelanos usan muchos expresiones idiomaticas, como, "Vergatario", "Machete", "Cuño de madre", "Vergacione", etc., etc
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el flaco says on Aug 27, 2009, 03:32: They speak beautiful Spanish but above all they speak SLOWLY, costenios take note.
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kingfish5515 says on Aug 27, 2009, 06:40: When I first visited Col a year ago I was halfway fluent in esanol, at the very least fluent in basic simple espanol, having learned a lot from my mexican employees and having spent time and going to school in Costa Rica. It took me 2 days to understand anything in mde, at first I was wondering if they really did speak spanish. There really is a big difference between the accents and dificult for the beginner if he has learned it another country. Another thing is that the proper espanol we learn in the classroom regardless of accent is different from street idioma. Not so bad now but often taxi drivers and me speak different spanish. Lower class people dont always speak like the news programs and telenovelas I watch to improve my skills either. KF
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Aji1 says on Aug 27, 2009, 07:09: JEZZZ...try talking to a Puertoricaño if your think talking to a Costeño is difficult. Hey, but now I understand all the American Spanish "dialects" :) Bogotanos are probably the easiest and most proper Spanish to be found in LA, IMHO anyway. I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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jcgd77 says on Aug 27, 2009, 07:13: Está claro que el mejor español del continente se habla en Colombia.
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dtbrooklyn says on Aug 27, 2009, 07:34: Yo aprendì español en Buenos Aires, y el accento porteño es... umm.. úniquo. Siempre me costó entender los de clases bajas o los viejos porque el accento era tan pronunciado que no me parecío español. Pues, después de un año allá (ashá, como se dice en BsA) me vine acá a Medellín donde todos me dijeron que hablan un español muy "puro". Los primeros días no entendí nada de nada por toda la jerga (q´hubo parce, qué mas, bien o no, que no des papaya, etc...) y es verdad que la jerga acá es bien fuerte (pero creo que esto pasa por todas partes). trabajo con adolecentes desde hace 8 meses y me han enseñado mucho, aunque todavía me falta mucho vocabulario. Después de un rato acá me acostrumbré al accento paisa, pero nunca diría que los paisas no tengan un accento a veces bien fuerte. No hablan tan rapido como los costeños pero sí tienen muchas cosas y sonidos muy particulares. porque no te callas? 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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azulvioleta says on Aug 27, 2009, 10:10: Creo que es cierto, porque por ejemplo en ciudades como Bogota y Cali, el acento es un poco mas neutro comparado con otros paises, ademas se haba mas lento que en otras regioneis. El costarricense tiene un acento muy similar al colombiano, sin embargo es en Colombia donde se habla mejor el español... tambien creo que depende de que tan entrenado esta tu oido, es decir cual español escuchas mas frecuentemente Azulvioleta 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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luce says on Aug 27, 2009, 10:11: Yes. I have lived in So Cal and Florida and am always told my Spanish is very correct (they noticed this even though my Spanish is also very "broken"). So when you say "accent" you also mean "localisms". For this reason, I did not let my kids take Spanish in school - instead I made them take Latin. The kids already knew enough castellano Spanish from my family and I didn't want that mixed w/ the Mex or PR or Cuban (no offense to those folks, just noticing the language difference) that would be taught at school in the states. Also because Latin is more than a language, it's history, it's art and so much more. That was one of the best moves I ever stumbled on! With only the Spanish learned at their grandparents house after school (including some time to read/write at the kitchen table), and with the Latin they learned in school, both of my kids validated many Spanish classes. Loyal to both. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Aji1 says on Aug 27, 2009, 12:44: Luce, I bet they would also find with a little effort Italian and Portuguese to be close to "plug and play" as well. I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cali1010 says on Aug 27, 2009, 13:04: In the time that I have traveled, I have noticed that in most regions of different countries in S.A spanish is diffirent. When I first went to Cartagena, I could not understand them at all. They spoke too fast, now on the other hand paisas talk moderately and can understand them well. Now Rolos in my experience talk way slower than costenos or paisas or calenas. I think since they talk slower, one is able to hear them clearly and well spoken by most. Now, In Lima, Peru they have an accent and talk fast, not as fast as cosntenos....took a couple of days to get up to speed. Now, In La Paz, Bolivia the spanish (Castellano) is spoken clearly and I was able to understand them very well. However, In Santa Cruz, Bolivia...the tropical side..they have an accent where one says, "La tienda esta a la vuelta", the say faster, "La tienda esta a la vueltinga". However, In Tarija, know as the the state of wine people are very, very relaxed and talk very suttle and slow. I was able to understand them very well. Argentinians...talk fast and takes a couple of days to get used to, same with Chilenos. Well, at least in my view. Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Dolfi says on Aug 28, 2009, 02:20: But argentinian spanish sounds beautiful, doesn´t it? A bit like italian to me...
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utopiacowboy says on Aug 28, 2009, 03:52: I hate the Argentine Spanish. They sound like a bunch of wops. The Costa Ricans speak a Spanish very similar to that of Colombia. Clear and easy to understand. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cali1010 says on Aug 28, 2009, 11:28: Yep Dolfi, I love to hear "Las Gauchitas" hablando en su acento...sexy, at leat to me. They do have an italian accent, considering that they have a direct link to Italy because of the immigrants. Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) says on Aug 28, 2009, 11:40: "But argentinian spanish sounds beautiful, doesn´t it? A bit like italian to me..." I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis. - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Former President of the Galaxy and inventor of the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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cali1010 says on Aug 28, 2009, 13:53: I just remembered how much Colombians love the "CHE's", after they didn't want to come and play the COPA AMERICA because they were scared that they might get kidnapped. Ignorance does not discriminate race, age nor gender 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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