Comparing prices of office stuff in Colombia vs. Amazon.com

Escape Artist says on Oct 26, 2009, 06:50:

F.Y.I. Office Depot is opening two stores in Poblado this week or next. It will be interesting to see the price differences between Office Depot's in the USA vs. Colombia

EA

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 06:50:

Thank you very much for this post. My friend Peter. I buyed the last week a camera (Kodak) for 400.000 pesos. I found a US website where you can get the same camera for 149 USD (285.000 pesos). But I prefer to pay a little bit moren then to have contact with people from thug country US and A.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 26, 2009, 06:53:

BB...you pride yourself on being a thug, and call the USA a thug country....does that mean you really wish to be in the USA?

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Escape Artist says on Oct 26, 2009, 06:56:

Would it be possible to stay "on topic' at least once on this site, especially in one of the creators threads?

EA

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 06:59:

I agree with you Escape Artists.

cameras are a lot cheaper in the usa. But if you let them ship to Colombia you pay till 400 USD tax for impuestos......

I plan to import a "pop corn" machine:



Somebody has any idea how much they cost? They are from the US and A... Sundays and on celebration day I will got sell PopCorn at La Septimba or Plaza Bolivar.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 26, 2009, 07:03:

Yes, Maam Escape Artist....Assistant Moderator, Maam..........

BB....look at www.costco.com ......they have them there.......but its from a Thug Company.....they look nice but a friend bought one.....more cosmetic than functional.

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pedro says on Oct 26, 2009, 07:06:

Very true, Peter.

My contact lenses cost $50 (95,000 pesos) for 6 pairs when quoted on websites in the US. In Medellin they cost 240,000.

In Cartagena they sell hairdryers that are supposedly brand name, but are clearly Chinese copies. They sell that shite for more than twice the price of what a decent one would cost in the US.

People can bitch all they want about the big stores like Carrefour, HomeCenter etc. For me, they are dragging Colombia into the 21st century by taking the slack out of the supply chain.

Peter, are you back in Colombia right now?

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Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 26, 2009, 07:11:

Pedro, you are correct about Cartagena.....the highest prices for the crappiest quality in all of Colombia.

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kingfish5515 says on Oct 26, 2009, 07:25:

My opinion on this matter is that Colombia and other latin countries charge a lot of import tax because they cant collect income tax from citizens as do first world countries. The citizens are a captive audience as far as buying goods, and almost all exept food and a few locally made items must be imported. Food, coffee and other in country manufactured items seem to be cheaper than the usa. Since I have never bought a car in Col, I wonder if the Renualts are cheaper as they have an assembly factory there. Sure are a lot of Renaults on the road and I dont think there would be if they were not cheaper than the jap/ korean cars. But I would assume the parts to build them with are imported and may have a tax on them, but possibly lower or exempt. So, my thinking is that the people may not pay income tax but get screwed anyway when they purchase all the things one needs to live exept food ect. This is a good subject to investigate and I wish there were more threads like this about the things we face living there vs all the stupid argumentative crap that goes on here. mi dos pesos!! KF

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Peter (Moderator) (Dev team) says on Oct 26, 2009, 07:29:

I think part of the reason is simple market efficiency: the US represents a huge market, and thus a lot of stuff in the US is incredibly cheap (clothes, food, goods, ...). Remember they are the country that have Wallmart. If you are a large company, you can sell large quantities of goods in the US and so you can keep prices very cheap. Everything is optimized, from import taxes (through often rather unfair international treaties), to internal transport etc. The only thing that's expensive in the US is manpower, but they've spend the last 100 years optimizing that away.

In Colombia, probably only 5 or 10% of the population would go to stores like the one I mentioned, so it's a really small market. That plus import taxes that you mentioned means they have to sell things much more expensively. It's funny: the poor pay more for the same goods.

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theflatline says on Oct 26, 2009, 09:36:

Renault and VW were vying to have a plant in Colombia at one point in time, and Renault paid the biggest bribe. They were there long before the Japanese and Korean cars, that is why you see so many.

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teeo9111 says on Oct 26, 2009, 09:45:

Peter is spot on about this. Purchasing power and much lower import taxes in most instances brings lower prices in the USA.

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larryrn says on Oct 26, 2009, 10:13:

LG is about the same price here. The TV might be 500 bucks in the US but shipping and taxes to bring it here would be another 250-300 dollars - and the TV here would have no warranty. Buying a LG here comes with a 3 year on site warranty. Your American TV (purchased in the US) has no warranty here - plus will not work when Colombia goes high def since Colombia will be on the European standards.

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gamm2 says on Oct 27, 2009, 15:05:

I heard a rumor that Best Buy is opening across from Unilago in Bogotá.... I wonder what that would mean for electronics prices....

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theflatline says on Oct 27, 2009, 15:08:

Best Buy is super expensive in the states if you are buying parts or memory.

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La_Huella says on Oct 27, 2009, 18:24:

Panamericana is super expensive here... did you look at the corner papeleria??

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kramer says on Oct 27, 2009, 21:35:

I live part time in Asia and Colombia, and visit the USA twice yearly in-between. Colombia is the most expensive place to buy "stuff", by far.

And I still can't figure out why restaurants are so expensive in Colombia. One would think that lower labor costs would come into the picture for Colombian restaurants, which would be far less affected by high import taxes on manufactured goods, but they really don't.

Also, if taxes are higher in some sectors (import taxes, VAT on purchases), one would expect them to be lower in other sectors (like income taxes on workers), but that does not really seem to be the case in Colombia either.

My best guess is simply that the commercial sector was not able to develop in Colombia due to the internal wars in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s. There continue to be high taxes to fund the government to maintain security, there are high private security costs for businesses due to high crime levels and foreign investment is only now coming around now that the country-wide security picture has brightened. There is also an immature banking sector that desperately needs more foreign competition and I think this holds back both foreign and domestic business.

I have spent a lot of time in many developing countries. The culture in Colombia seems to be more advanced than the economic situation -- people are more educated, more worldly, have better attitudes about work than one would expect (believe me, compared to the Philippines, it is like night and day!). This also leads me to believe that the wars are really behind this and it gives me hope that things may change for the better, eventually . . .

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