Colombian police kill rebel leader

Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 26, 2009, 15:27:

Poco a poco.....=)

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 15:47:

BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:03:

sad news....it is always sad if a colombian kills another colombian.... the same like the death penalty in the worst country of the word: the USA

CARDIFF SOUL CREW.......

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jman73 says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:07:

Yea they killed this guy but I am not really sure what it accomplishes because their are 100s waiting to take his place. Its no different then when the US announces it killed some big wig Taliban leader in Afghanistan or Pakistan. They replace him the next day and just keep going.

"Anyone who thinks that Colombia is a gastronomical paradise needs to have their head examined." jman73

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Miguel_Clavo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:07:

so tell us BB how is it that you lived in the US....did they deport your ass?

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:08:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:09:

who knows...at least he's no longer in Switzerland...

Crackheads suck!

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:11:

suizo. You better stay in Switzerland and do your bullshit job at a bank...
Makopp Also a terrorist has rights. The right for a fair trial.... But killing is not ok... Makopp do you also will show up at our meet up in Medellin?

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suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:22:

What a pitty, I was hoping you'd offer me a job in your "international company"...

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:25:

ja mann aber lueg was seisch.... das isch kolumbien und noed dieni buenzli schwiiiiz....

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:29:

makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:30:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:34:

makopp - I didn't. Heard that the pm-system was down and many were not able to send pm...try again

Crackheads suck!

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:36:

suizo
shit, it was a longer pm, do you know if there is a copy avaible?
the whole PM was about, if you are interested in opening a business in Cali with our help, my partner is from suitzerland too. Our business is www.tga.com.co

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:46:

Makopp I also have good contacts to Switzerland... If you want I also can help you... I know you are in the printer business... I will be in Medellin the 13 and 14th of November... If you want we can meet for diner and talk about business relation...

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suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:48:

makopp - I don't think there's a copy available. You'd need to resend.
I have a full time job and am setting up a business next year with two partners, besides that I'm working on my PhD; so I'm 150% busy. But I have a friend (Swiss) who is looking for business opportunities in Colombia. He might be interested.

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:49:

suizo use this opportunity and let your boring life behind you..... do something interesting.... lawyer is a bullshit job....

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:52:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:52:

jajajajaja - BB, how many of my colleagues have you fed with your $$$ so far?

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:54:

BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:54:

yes suizo
Leave your boring 08/15 life in Switzerland behind you and start your own thing... what you do? einfach paragraphe uswaendig kaenne...... meh noed....

Listen to Makopp and come to Colombia. Life is a lot better here as in Switzerland.... believe me....

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suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:55:

makopp - well yes, I actually am. But not in the short term... still have some stuff to finish here. I assume the business opportunity you are talking about is not specifically in need of a lawyer, right?

Crackheads suck!

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:57:

makopp
he is a swiss lawyer... the most correct country in the world... In Colombia the lawyer business is just about paying other people and have the right contacts.... Forget it.... As a foreigner you can not be lawyer in Colombia...

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:58:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 16:58:

makopp - yes, I did. BB still owes me an answer...

Crackheads suck!

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suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:00:

BB - I am dying to hear from you how I can let my boring life behind me...

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:01:

BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:02:

makopp Please also show up the 13th in medellin...

So have a nice evening... I go to the gym....

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suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:03:

makopp - send me another pm. maybe first a TEST only and I will reply to see if it works now.

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suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:04:

BB - do you like Las Muñecas de la Mafia?

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:06:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:09:

got your pm

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:10:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:14:

well yes up to you

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:15:

suizo says on Oct 26, 2009, 17:24:

sure, why not

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apeters says on Oct 26, 2009, 22:14:

thats about all that Uribe has been good at. Colombia looks to be improving on the surface, but inside its a different story. What about the help for the desplazados? Or how about an effort to improve on human rights? They have been pretty much nonexistent. He has been great against the FARC, which is a big job in itself...but has failed on other important aspects of Colombian society.

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La_Huella says on Oct 26, 2009, 22:25:

All countries are bad on human rights. Governments habitually tend to surpress the individual. Colombia is no exception but it's not any worse than anywhere else.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 27, 2009, 02:56:

phillyguy says on Oct 27, 2009, 04:56:

Since when do the FARC or ELN have rights? They claim to be revolutionary guerrillas at war with the Colombian government. That makes them combatants and ince when do combantants have rights to arrest and trial?

If I am at war with sombody, and I have them in the cross-hairs, guess what? They're dead. End of story.

Shoot all FARC members on sight, and then read them their rights while the vultures are picking at their bones.

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 05:44:

phillyguy
you tell us the same bullshit like Uribe.... Falsos Positivos are crimes done by the state... We live in country where laws are important... If you really think what you write here please stay in your bullshit country USA and never come here...

I really dont understand why the mods let a guy like you staying here:

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Shoot all FARC members on sight, and then read them their rights while the vultures are picking at their bones.
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Thats what he wrote, against all human rights.... You are the proof that Us Americans are the worst people..... You killed 1000000 innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq but you dont learned nothing.....sad.....thats sad...

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 27, 2009, 05:55:

phillyguy says on Oct 27, 2009, 06:04:

No, I believe my positon is in accordance with international law.

The FARC claims that they are fighting a war of revolution. (They say this to avoid murder charges for all of their crimes if and when they are captured.) You can't have it both ways. If you are a combatant in a war of revolution, you are liable to be shot by the enemy. Any time, any where. You can't claim "prisoner of war" status after you are captured, but claim that the authorities are obliged to "arrest you" like a normal criminal.

A combatant in a war of revolution can be shot by their enemy any time, any where." Did the USA or the USSR "arrest" the Nazis during world war 2? No, they killed them whenever and where ever they could. Colombia should do the same to the FARC.

Gee, are you saying that the FARC has the right conduct war against the Colombian state, and to bomb innocent civilians, but the police have to arrest them? Guess again.

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 06:35:

You are wrong Phillyguy.. They have to make them prisoners but they can not shoot them... This is against the convention of Geneva and against all human rights...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

Maybe you US Gringos think like this. But we are civilized people and we are not thinking the whole day in McDonalds....

Makopp. I dont have a problem with you but I think you dont know nothing about Colombia. You stay the whole day in your estrato6 Poblado and smoke.... Better use your time to build a social Colombia.

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billyb says on Oct 27, 2009, 06:46:

"A handful of individuals attacking a police station would not be considered an armed conflict subject to this article, but only subject to the laws of the country in question."

From the explanation of Article 3 of the convention. In other words, the government is within its rights to kill them and let them rot in the street to be fed upon by vultures.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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phillyguy says on Oct 27, 2009, 06:49:

What a load of crap. There is no requirement that they "have to make them prisoners" unless they are actively trying to surrender, and there is no evidence of that in this case. If a soldier breaks down a door in urban combat, the order of the day is to shoot first and ask questions later. You don't announce yourself, you don't ask them if they want to surrender, you break down the door and fire.

Of course, you deem the following not worth mentioning"

"Triana was the leader of the FARC's Teofilo Forero (TF) mobile column that carried out the 2003 El Nogal Club bombing in northern Bogota, one of the worst attacks in the city that killed 36 and injured 200. The FARC guerrillas managed to park a car containing 200 kg of explosives in the club's garage and detonated the car bomb. There were approximately 600 people in the building at the time of the explosion."

If I'm not mistaken, the Geneva Convention does not allow the use of massive car bombs to massacre innocent civilians either. Nor does it allow the kidnapping and ransom of non-combatants. The FARC, and their cowardly supporters like you, want it both ways. The FARC isn't obligated to play by the rules, but the govenment is. Bullcrap. It's time to resurect "los pepes".

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kingfish5515 says on Oct 27, 2009, 06:54:

I think like phillyguy...... But maybe we gringos are wrong and just need to hold hands with the murderous torture giving bombing kidnapping terrorists and gather around the campfire and sing happy songs,,, then they would change thier evil ways for sure!!! But then again I am just one of those darn uncivilized americans that ate breakfast at mcdonalds this morning and supports our troops in afganistan. Isnt it a shame there are so many of us that will stand and fight for the rights of the good folks instead of the terrorists,,, what a bummer!!! Almost time to return to mcdonalds for lunch... KF

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:01:

phillyguy
I am not a supporter of the FARC. I think they are the worst terrorists and they made a lot of damage to Colombia. Yesterday I saw a Farc terrorist walking down the street and I told him that I think he is an idiot. I told him this in his face. But I still thinkt they should get a fair trial.

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suizo says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:04:

makopp - please don't name BB and Switzerland in the same sentence. Luckily, he is in no way representative for Swiss people nor does he like Switzerland. BB and Switzerland - It is just a very very unfortunate coincidence...

Crackheads suck!

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:08:

BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:08:

Suizo schrieb mer rasch e PM... es gaht um en Job... ich hett evt. oeppis... verdiensch halt noed so vill macht dafuer doppelt spass...

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suizo says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:11:

yes makopp, for sure... Same with Germany: A lot of supporters for islamic terrorists, most of them with german passports nowadays. Fortunately, a very small minority...

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suizo says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:13:

Antithesis - I always take BB by the word...what do you think?

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:14:

Antithesis
I travel a lot of times through Colombia.... I also travel to places like Guaviare and Putumayo. A lot of times I got stopped by the FARC. They asked for my passport and I told them that I think they are horrible terrorists who damage Colombia. They always listen to me and we started a discussion. Finally some of them believed me and they put their guns to the ground and left the guerilla after I talked to them. Believe me, at least 50 guerilleros left the FARC because of my arguments. And because I always talk to them when they stop me in the jungle. With words you can reach more then with guns. I also have got a price from the Colombia government as honor for the good things I have done in Colombia...

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BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:33:

Antithesis. I didnt demobilized all of them but a lot of FARC guerilla left their weapons and returned into civil life because I talked to them. With very good arguments. Believe me, words are more important as weapons. I was also nominated for the peace nobel prize this year. If you want I can send you the information by PM.

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:38:

BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:44:

Makopp
dies stimmt. Wenn Du willst koennen wir uns in Medellin treffen und ich zeige Dir a) den Preis den ich von der kolumbianischen Regierung erhalten haben und b) meine Nomination fuer den Friedens Nobel Preis....

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makopp5 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:45:

BUSHWICK-BILL says on Oct 27, 2009, 08:47:

Antithesis. Finally I didn't had a chance to win the nobel prize. Obama was stronger then me. But at least I was mentioned together with Obama. I done a lot of a important things in my life. And I will do a lot of important things in my life.

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billyb says on Oct 27, 2009, 09:39:

" They always listen to me and we started a discussion. Finally some of them believed me and they put their guns to the ground and left the guerilla after I talked to them. Believe me, at least 50 guerilleros left the FARC because of my arguments."

I think it is a calumny that Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize instead of you Bushie. I nominate Bushwick as the inagural recipient of the PBH Peace Prize, for his contributions and, like Obama, potential future contributions to Peace.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Rocco81 says on Oct 27, 2009, 10:47:

Bushwick who would win in a dance off between you and Makopp?

Sic semper tyrannis

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Haddeman says on Oct 27, 2009, 12:45:

Classic bullshit bill,don´t you just love im!!

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Juepaje says on Oct 27, 2009, 14:40:

Remember Bushwick that you would not be from Poland but from Germany if it were not for the US. I know the US is not perfect but the US does do some good as well as bad. The government is not the same as the people that they no longer represent. Plus we used to have Lawrence Welk every Saturday night, pure polka gold with bubbles.

Sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam.

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theflatline says on Oct 27, 2009, 16:00:

Juepaje,

I think I can combine your love of Lawrence Welk with Bushicks love of weed.

Brewer's and Shipleys One Toke Over the Line as performed on the Lawerence Welk Show.

Legaleez for Complete Morons - A book for gringos in Colombia for who think they understand the nature of the law in a country where they cannot speak the language.

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Juepaje says on Oct 27, 2009, 17:32:

Flatline,
You amaze me! Who would have ever thought? That is too funny. I did a job up in Anchorage for a couple of months and they have a lot of people from Wisconsin and Minnesota and those people are crazy for polkas. We have lots of Checs and Germans in Texas along with Mexicans who also are crazed polka fans. I grew up listening and dancing to that stuff but I would not call myself a fan. I was more of an unwilling participant. Ana one, ana two, ana
If you run for office, you will get my vote. I will vote early and often as they say in your parts.

Sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam.

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Juepaje says on Oct 27, 2009, 17:36:

Are Bushwick and Penelope from SNL related?

Sic enim dilexit Deus mundum ut Filium suum unigenitum daret ut omnis qui credit in eum non pereat sed habeat vitam aeternam.

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