A Request Regarding New Members

Paisa/Calena/Luver says on May 22, 2009, 13:13:

I like the fact that the "newbie" tag has been extended for a longer period! This helps alot!

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 13:15:

Sapito, whichever suits you best. But I meant it as a friendly request.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:27:

tasco66 says on May 22, 2009, 13:37:

You mean Tropcical something last night was not a troll??

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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somedumbguy says on May 22, 2009, 13:38:

"Yes, I know you are very smart people..."

I am?

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roccatanski says on May 22, 2009, 13:42:

I am from from Canada ,I currently live in Colombia ,and have been a member of this site for almost 3 years , is great site I love it , a lot of useful valuable information which is my main use, I must say I agree with azunoman and desideria comment's on this one.

"A man is defined by his actions, not his memory" ( Kuato-- total recall)

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:44:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 13:47:

Mongo, I had a legit reason to be suspicious. It was also I who cleared her out after she contacted me and provided the needed info to clear her status. I was not sure as I KNEW that her Spanish was native and educated, even if there was evidence that she might not have been who she claimed to be. I'm glad it was all sorted out in good time and we have another valuable female contributor here.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:48:

tasco66 says on May 22, 2009, 13:49:

Desi what kind of DD did you do on Tone Loc? Apparently you forgot to ask for his police records...

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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tasco66 says on May 22, 2009, 13:50:

"I am not saying she is not real, only that her IP is coming from the USA and we don't know why?"

This could be why:

http://www.fastproxynetwork.com/

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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goin_south says on May 22, 2009, 13:54:

"you are in her face(book)" ... lol, mongo.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 13:57:

karion says on May 22, 2009, 13:58:

I only got a light ribbing, but I think I also posted at precisely the wrong time.

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goin_south says on May 22, 2009, 13:59:

why not el carrabus?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on May 22, 2009, 14:01:

"I wanted to cry last night....and the night before...."

Azunoman, next time im there I'll give you a nice hug, and then we can find things to do together and start a BROmance!

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 14:18:

It will be there, but tomorrow. I want to run this as a sticky, to get the maximum attention. How many of you guys READ "About PBH" section? The posts there or Off-topic don't show on the main page, so if we want to post an announcement it would be useless to post it off the main page.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 14:27:

Paisa/Calena/Luver says on May 22, 2009, 14:31:

"PCL... you are such an altruist!..."


I do have to admit, that I did indeed have to look that one up! ajjajajaajaj lol

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 14:45:

azuno...I don't know. Ask Peter.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 14:48:

kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 14:53:

ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 14:55:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 14:58:

What do we know...perhaps Snappy is out there doing missionary work in Colombia?

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 14:59:

and pigs fly.........see! look over there!!!!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:02:

i am going to puke.

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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wendell13 says on May 22, 2009, 15:04:

missionary position

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:04:

BBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa,,,,,,,,,,,,,............burp!


sorry, what a mess!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:10:

ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:10:

billyb says on May 22, 2009, 15:10:

*

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:14:

billyb says on May 22, 2009, 15:17:

I thought those were the Spartans?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:20:

hey, billyb, give me a hand here will ya...help a brotha out???...jajajjaja

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:25:

ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:29:

Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:31:

the trolls are fun to b-slap....its like having a red-headed stepchild .......

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 15:33:

I would miguel, but i'm one of the FEW nice ones here ;)

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:37:

oh, i see how your are, billyb....just because you have red hair so you took offense to that??? jajjajaja

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:39:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 22, 2009, 15:40:

We're getting sidetracked here.
Whether you believe in Jesus, Mohammad, Wakan tanga or Santa Claus makes no difference here. There's something weird going on here: something I can't really explane, but there's a certain negatice spiral dynamics at work here. I've seen the same thing on the schoolyard when kids decide they don't like somebody and for the most obscure reasons start giving him/her a hard time,

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:42:

you are spot on, Desi...i really never did like billyb......jajajja

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 15:45:

Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:47:

yup, just like Bozo the Clown....in fact, someone should do a DNA check on those two......the resemblance is striking.....

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 15:47:

I didn't know i had irish ancestry. I agree, I think clavo should be banned ;)

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:50:

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:51:

Hey, ES...maybe we can bring the Spanish Inquisition back??? wouldnt that be a kick in the pants....jajjaa

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 15:52:

Catfish35 has a photo of billy when he was a little younger as his avatur....=)

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Catfish35 says on May 22, 2009, 16:05:

In think we should continue to attack newbies relentlessly. If they run off right away then we should write them and apologize because then we know they were sincere and NOT trolls. If they stick around after the attacks and argue and fuel it then they are trolls and we can delete them!
The ones we unfortunately attack and humiliate can be offered something like free membership for 3 months or something.

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 22, 2009, 16:12:

Rocco81 says on May 22, 2009, 16:22:

PBS has seemed to have found God?

This is a most profound thread in deed. I have a question.Do people who love god have to ask for forgiveness for attacking other members in the most hanest of manners? Is it ok to say oddly creepy things that are vile if you love god?

I am just curious.

Some of these posters even though they appear ancient in their pictures do not seemed to have changed much in thier behavior from being bed wedding little tattle tales and brown nosers that they truly are at heart. I'll bet some of you sat in class and always had your hand up for the right answer "ooh ooh ooh pick pick me" the same way you do now with your petty complaints and flag throwing and the hint of a slight in your direction.

Sic semper tyrannis

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catamd says on May 22, 2009, 16:48:

Everytime a newbie dares to post on some topic, at least 7 or 8 members accuse him or her of being a troll....having had my good share of trollish accusations which were later rectified by my BEING REAL (can't believe I had to prove you guys that!!!) let me tell you that I have absolutely no idea why mi IP is still showing as if I was in the US. Desi wrote me and we straightened things out, but other members (female, I think...) still sound unconvinced. Too bad for them, I really enjoy reading what you gringos think about my country and will continue to stand for my HUMAN, not TROLLISH nature!!
Now, if somebody would pleaaaase tell me about this IP business, I'd really appreciate it!!

Dra Cata

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goin_south says on May 22, 2009, 16:53:

"""hey, billyb, give me a hand here will ya...help a brotha out??"""... M_C
billy: "I would, but I'm one of the nice ones around here"
_______

Clavo, I think what he meant but wouldn't say was that he "suddenly remembered, ... you're mexican" lol

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 16:56:

"Clavo, I think what he meant but wouldn't say was that he "suddenly remembered, ... you're mexican" lol"

jaja, now you let the cat out of the bag GS.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on May 22, 2009, 16:58:

jeeeeze... wtf have you all been drinking this afternoon
(while I've been working, trying to help pay down the national debt)?
this is a most unusual post.
____

and, don't forget that verse:

"Blessed are the MODERATORS.... for they shall see Don Viejo"
____

I'm not drinkin; I'm tired .
But, if this keeps up, I'll have to entertain a party and invite Sailor Yerri tonight.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 17:13:

GS...more accurately .....half-mexican/half white...or, half-white/half-mexican for GS...jajajaj..so i can play both the latino and gringo cards......at my convenience....but i do not have red hair and freckles like billyb....jajajjajaj..and i have all my teeth and hair, unlike billyb....jajajjaaj

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 17:18:

jaja, I'm working on new dentures and I only have red hair when I'm trying to "pass" at an Irish pub on ladies' night, my rugs are mostly blond ;)

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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catamd says on May 22, 2009, 17:23:

Thanks Poorbutsnappy!!! I don't have a clue why my IP shows crazy locations. Could it be maybe because I use an internet service through Comcel at home??

Dra Cata

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Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2009, 17:26:

and who said billyb is Colombian? he did? chistoso....jajajja...he is as mojado as i am.....hes a meskin like me! but he looks more Pakastani if you ask me.....=)

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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billyb says on May 22, 2009, 17:33:

"hes a meskin like me! but he looks more Pakastani if you ask me.....=)"

jaja, thank god then, I thought I looked meskin.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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ferran says on May 22, 2009, 17:39:

Boy oh boy.....What a bunch here, I joined this forum about a year ago and went through the same pattern as a "NEWBIE" of being label and called a TROLL by.........oh yes, by that guy 666 who rode off into the sunset and the rest of spankys gang. I dindt even know what the heck a TROLL was until I look it up, I thought it came from the word trawling, fishing, throwing the bait in, at any rate I stook around because of some of the information thats available here sometimes in the midst of all this trawling, nevertheless I found it funny and amusing, but some people found at last a home here in this PBS forum. I never take any of the attacks and names I been called personnal, for chuchos sake its only a forum site!! Thats All It Is!! but I see some here take it quite seriously, could this be the Freud syndrome? your mon dindt love you? you got pick on at school? sexual incompetence? dont really care about any of that no mi problema, a good example of all this is this thread how it gets really off track, religion? red heads? facebuck? its all to funny, do you think the average Colombian gives any importance to what some of you think and say? I can just hear them say "partida de chichipatos"

So lets hope you poor hurt soul recuperate from this onslaught of the last few days and get some sleep, its Mercury retrograde after all.

Like Elmo says......good night and thank you

All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

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ferran says on May 22, 2009, 17:58:

Thats exactly what I mean people with issues and cases......

All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

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Morrongo says on May 22, 2009, 18:03:

PBS states ...ColombianoGringo: Believe what you may... I will not be condescending to you.... If you chose to wrongly "perceive" how I live my life to the fullest... and single out my imperfections, that is YOUR flaw... Are you perfect?

PBS I think you are confusing the word imperfections with weirdness

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Man Tequila says on May 22, 2009, 18:04:

Don't feed the trolls? What will I do with all my leftover gruff billygoats?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

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tasco66 says on May 22, 2009, 18:15:

"Don't feed the trolls?"

PBH is all about feeding trolls...

The trouble with free elections is, you never know who is going to win (Leonid Brezhnev)

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on May 22, 2009, 18:31:

Hi Medo! Preemptive Medo locator! ji ji ji

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on May 22, 2009, 18:43:

ajaajaajajjaja, strike a nerve? USUALLY, I would have let it ride and kept my mouth shut under the new "BE FRIENDLY TO NEWBIE DERIVATIVE", but common Medo, this is just so blatantly obvious, who could give you a pass without calling you out.. jajaaja lol

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on May 22, 2009, 19:03:

"Or should the person who weighs in with an incendiary statement meant only to provoke, as their first comment ever, be deleted?"


Or as my favorite telemundo judge Ana Maria Polo says... "Caso Cerrado"! lol

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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RAAAY says on May 22, 2009, 20:07:

why does Desi not like Santa Claus.......?

Ohhhhh............. and hello Medo.

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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goin_south says on May 22, 2009, 21:23:

I got to congratulate Medo.
I never know who he/she is or isn't.
Nor, do I care.
I don't pay attention to that.
But, he/she does keep just about everyone else here with their guard up.

CONGRATS, MEDO... WHOEVER/WHERE EVER YOU ARE.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Rocco81 says on May 22, 2009, 22:40:

Funny I never was flamed for bieng a troll when I was new....maybe just because I had a normal question? I've had plenty of people disagree with me on threads and that's fine. That is what we are here for. If you cry every time somenone disagrees with you then that is your problem.

You know I agree that some people just flame anyone for bieng a troll and sometimes it gets real old...but to the new members, atleast use the search function and check to see if you're not beating a dead horse...Colombian crime, Colombian women, cocaine busts...its old.

And PBS...I might disagree with filth. But I never attack people telling them things about thier mothers and talking the kinds of trash that you have resorted to. And again you being as old as you are I figured you would have stopped that stuff oh maybe 30 -40 years ago?

Sic semper tyrannis

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ferran says on May 23, 2009, 02:03:

Well I guess some of you follow my advice and got some sleep for a change.

The sun does shine back again after the storm.

Good night and thank you

All truth goes through three phases. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 23, 2009, 12:14:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on May 29, 2009, 12:43:

I'm bringing this back to Friendly Talkzone, since some of you have very short memories.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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aztec says on May 29, 2009, 14:35:

Desideria is correct. We are rather cavalier with our attitude when it concerns new comers. Those of us who have given much of our lives to Colombia and its people forget how totally naive we were when first thinking of Colombia. Just try to remember.

If I had been attacked like some of these newbies I would long ago have given up on this site. (Like I have on another blog site about Colombia). We need to give them some slack. Now if they have been here a year then maybe they are fair game. Have at it!

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lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 16:24:

Attacking newbies is nothing new here at PBH. I was attacked on my very first post here in 2002. IF the managment of PBH wanted to eliminate the trolls they would be gone...period. I don't see the level of attacks as having increased or decreased in the seven years I have been here.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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goin_south says on May 29, 2009, 16:37:

I don't think I was ever 'attacked', when first enrolling on pbh.
But, certainly, there was NO WELCOMING PARTY... lol.
There were some snide remarks and accusations, by some of those OLD, LONG-GONE posters....
.... as to the effect that their chit had a nice aroma or such

Damn! I think they (we) forget: EVERYONE WAS ONCE A NEWBIE... both to Colombia and to Internet Posting Forums.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 16:50:

yeah I guess it depends on your definition of "attack". I was told my fiancee was a whore and would dump me as soon as she could. Seven years later I'm still waiting...lol

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 29, 2009, 17:04:

lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 17:34:

Johnnie...no waiting for her to leave!!!!

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 18:45:

Methinks the newbies are born again oldies...again a symptom of sloth in moderation.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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karion says on May 29, 2009, 18:48:

For what it is worth, this kind of shit happens almost everywhere on the internet. Established communities invariably give birth to trolls who are determined, no matter what, to create new accounts and stir up drama. As a result, the non-drama members get suspicious at every new account and there is a ritualistic hazing to attempt to suss out the trolls.

The seasoned internet surfer knows this dynamic and rolls with it, ribbing and all. The established members usually hold back for a while, waiting to see if the newbie asking restaurant advice questions is a one-time jangler or someone who is going to stick around. Those fed up with the troll reincarnates have their pitchforks ready, somewhat understandably, and are on the hunt for any indication that the newbie is a troll in sheep's clothing.

Some of the newbies leave in disgust or confusion. Some understand the dynamic and wait it out. This isn't at all unique to PBH, as I have seen it all over the great world wide web. I don't think there is a solution, much like there really isn't a solution to social misfits you encounter in your daily life. You just sort of ignore the shitstarters, take your ribbings, and decide whether it is a community/social circle that is worth the investment.

Again, for what it is worth, in my experience, "starving the beast" is the most efficient way of dealing with hard-core trolls, particularly those who were once ingratiated in the community, but were eventually judged to be shit-starters. What gets them off is the suspicion, drama and possible outing - the witch hunt. You want to discourage a habitual troll? Don't respond, don't accuse, don't react. It is the only antidote I have seen that really works. Rather than chime in with a "oh, it is the ghost of [whatever troll]", just don't answer the question presented. The trolls aren't looking for legitimate advice anyway - that couldn't be more boring - so legitimate advice is actually a form of "starving the beast." You feed them when you create a controversy, as they need drama to endure.

Okay, that was wordy and shit. Just some insight from a newbie in this particular corner of the internet who doesn't mind the hazing.

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goin_south says on May 29, 2009, 18:58:

""a symptom of sloth in moderation.""
well, tony, afterall... the Sloth is quite "colombian", no? j aj

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 29, 2009, 19:00:

lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 19:19:

Okay since the "management" won't step up to the plate and MANAGE. All members are to self moderate; by not feeding the trolls. Since "management" freely allows multiple handles all "newbies" are suspect as trolls. Let's ignore all "newbies" just does not seem the solution to me.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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karion says on May 29, 2009, 19:22:

See, Robert Scorpio, and I don't know you from Adam, or anyone else on this board, but you are a newbie bitching about the moderators.

This is the ultimate cliche of a determined troll, and I am violating my own advice by even responding to you. But seriously, so unoriginal. I have always sort of wondered what kind of person tries to sneak back into the party after the hosts and guests kick them out. Myself, I would probably sleep it off and never show my face there again, and, in more lucid moments, try to learn something from the experience. As you might expect, most people are laughing at you, a few kind souls feel sorry for you. Only the fellow social misfits are cheering you on, and they were kicked out the party, too.

There are two ways to get back to the party: abide by the social customs of the group, even if you disagree with them, or sneak back in through a window. Only one of them earns you the respect of your peers. The other just makes you seem like an unbalanced social misfit. While I generally have sympathy and compassion for social misfits, the ones who are self-destructive and refuse to learn from their mistakes are best ignored. A great definition of insanity is doing the same thing, over and over, and expecting a different result, and the unbalanced social misfits are the poster children of this.

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lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 19:25:

But is he a newbie or a reincarnation (sneaking in through the window to use your words) the general populace of the forum have no real way of knowing due to the lax enrollment proceedure.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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goin_south says on May 29, 2009, 19:26:

si! azunoman; free to roam about the cabin, but... .newbies!
KEEP your seatbelts on for safety's sake...
and stop posting like 'pri_ _s', Special K.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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karion says on May 29, 2009, 19:35:

lpdiver, a newbie wouldn't be bitching about the moderators. It is the classic, unoriginal, cliche "tell" of a banned former member.

I think the lack of creativity bothers me the most, and I don't have a dog in this hunt, as I fly my newbie flag proudly. It is dumb, and dumb irritates me. Also, it is the stupid of repeatedly sneaking through the window, only to do the very same shit that probably got you booted in the first place.

I have witnessed (elsewhere) some spectacular trolls, who spend months developing an online persona. Kind of akin to that booted party guest who changes clothes and maybe their accent, who, after a few drinks, finally reveals their madness. While they aren't any less batshit nuts or socially challenged, they are a little more interesting.

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lpdiver says on May 29, 2009, 19:38:

one of my points exactly K... and you seem to have a lot of insight for a "newbie".

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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karion says on May 29, 2009, 19:44:

I am new to this site, not the internet. It isn't a difficult distinction, really.

As I said, this is not unique to PBH, and I have a great deal of experience with the internet generally and trolls in particular. This truly does happen everywhere, and a client of mine (one of the most popular news aggregators on the internet) has a stunningly sophisticated system for dealing with this. And even with that technology, they are usually outmatched by the determination of the social misfits.

I am just especially mouthy today, and earnestly protective over PBH, as a week of going through old threads gave me a great deal of helpful advice for an upcoming trip to Bogota.

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karion says on May 29, 2009, 20:26:

Internet trolling truism #2. All of them fuck up the your/you're rule.

I don't make the rules, I just observe them.

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billyb says on May 29, 2009, 20:28:

"ya, I'm new too! Lets mate! But your a guy so, happy trolling!"

Since when has that been a problem for you?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Robert Jorge says on May 29, 2009, 23:41:

I like Karion.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Robert Jorge says on May 29, 2009, 23:44:

ElSapo, you were even accused of being a paraco supporter. I never saw the FARC accusations.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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karion says on May 30, 2009, 01:05:

RobertJorje, while I think we could enjoy a quick beverage, you bore this shit out of me.

Really? This is how you spend your free time? Trolling your way back to somewhere that you already found yourself ousted? Jesus, man. Have some pride.

Listen, I am cool like Fonzie and my superficial judgments here should be taken in stride. I'll buy you a beer and probably lecture you about social skills, and how you should develop them. It should be personally horrifying to you that you find yourself in this situation, but lest you forget, I'll remind you.

There is a big internet world out there, and if you find you torched bridges here and they cannot be rebuilt, go forth and wander, grasshopper. In the meantime, I am a loving newbie and I am on another's bank account for a few days. Want to meet me for dinner? Sure, cupcake. I am just that ballsy.

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lpdiver says on May 30, 2009, 02:32:

Back to the original post...a newbie requesting that their account be deleted just STINKS of troll to me.

"Oh I am a newbie here and everyone here is picking on me...please delete my account." Give me a break!


ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 30, 2009, 03:17:

kalder says on May 30, 2009, 04:21:

Bit of an oaf this karion; certainly no gentleman.

"A piece of cheese may entrap a mouse, but a bicycle could ensnare the Imperial Chancellor."~~An Bai Kuang

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stephen_aubrey says on May 30, 2009, 06:56:

I must be missing something............ there is humor in the bed posting, it doesn't matter if the poster is new person that is irrelevant ,the site is called poor but happy,this person can afford to have a live in maid which is beyond the means of most, me included, they obviously have a lot of wealth but would rather be cheap and buy her a piss stained dirty used mattress than a new one.

The only thing I seen from the comments is most people are good here,only thinking of the welfare of the poor maid and not the rich poster whom I will assume is sleeping on a new bed them self.

By making jokes about it this will hopefully guilt this rich but cheap person into doing the right thing and buy a new mattress which are by the way dirt cheap anyways.There is no hate here only compassion for the less fortunate.

" Most people talk a lot, few are up for the moment"

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TravellerNorway says on May 30, 2009, 09:58:

Interesting thread. There is no doubt that the wolves not only scare off new members, but also lurkers who would like to join in. They could have been valuable contributors to the site, and made pbh better. So in the end, the wolves only damage the future of pbh itself. Sad, but true. But I guess pbh is like everywhere else, people are different. Most are totally ok, but then you have the odd narrow-minded guy who cannot see anything beyond his own nose. Constructive criticism is clearly a foreign language for some, and some characters on here really amaze me (and others). You may wonder what they are like in real life as well, and you can only feel sorry for them. The newbies who make it through the "first round" though, are certainly able to speak up for themselves. And thus probably good contributors in the long run.

TN.

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goin_south says on May 30, 2009, 10:01:

that's a good analogy, TN: pbh wolfpack!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 30, 2009, 10:48:

karion says on May 30, 2009, 11:09:

I was just being an asshole to a clearly returned troll, and I apologize. It happens, especially after a long day. I own it and apologize sincerely. I violated my own rules about engagement.

Yes, not a gentleman, for many reasons, including my ovaries.

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goin_south says on May 30, 2009, 11:26:

karion :

"Laid back attorney who likes to travel" ?

"Robert Jorge, while I think we could enjoy a quick beverage, you bore this shit out of me."
Damn, Rob.... have you been 'engaging' this legal wench on the side, where we can't see?
She must not like drinking beers and bar-hopping in Destin

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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karion says on May 30, 2009, 13:00:

My bad, and sorry for hijaacking a meaningful thread.

I thought I was being toyed with by an alt of a known troll, as few "newbies" bitch about site moderation. That is, in my estimation, just internet common sense. I haven't read enough of the forums to get the back story.

But, no matter the identity, I violated the golden rule about maybe, possible trolls. Just shut the fuck up and see what happens. If I misread the situation, I apologize sincerely. Road to hell, good intentions and all that.

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Catfish35 says on May 30, 2009, 14:22:

Karion,
If you are in fact a "Newbie" which I highly doubt...You need to cruise like most people do when they walk into a room or internet site. Your ignorance in jumping right in and voicing opinions does enforce certain facts of filling an attorneys characteristics (so you claim), however, you need to sit back awhile and at least get a feel and know who is who and what is what before exposing your short-comings in life. Any Newbie thats signs on and decides to come on like this "Karion" deserves anything they get !
Again, I highly doubt you are in fact a real honest to goodness newbie...

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 30, 2009, 14:26:

finarina says on May 30, 2009, 14:39:

heyguys...I am a little confused about this whole troll thing, so just to clear it up...are there really people who have so much time on their hands to waste that they create false personas just to bitch at people who write threads? Are there really people in the world that sad? And, as this is a travel forum, should they not just....travel? just a thought! I am quite baffled! lol

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karion says on May 30, 2009, 16:16:

Catfish, you are absolutely right about the internet etiquette. I lurked and read for a few weeks and spoke out of turn, and apparently, also confused two logins, whichis a total rookie mistake.

You can doubt me all you want and I won't be pissed off. Like I said, I know the dynamic of internet communities and expect it. And hell, if you live in Bogota, I'll buy you a drink when I am there (June 16-22nd).

And yes, attorneys are notoriously quick to misread a situation and I fell into the trap. I believe it has less to do with me being an attorney than just me being an asshole at the wrong time. Again, the offer stands - I will be in Bogota that week and you can meet me in person and see for yourself that I am not the ghost of any former troll.

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dwmte7 says on May 30, 2009, 16:28:

there is an undeniable stench to carrion (like magic spelled with K, a hint of crowley exudes) were it not so, the birds that eat the dead could not smell it at 15,000 ft. (contrary to popular belief, it's not their eyesight...rather, their olfactory sense)

sit back and get your ship's legs intact and inplace and get to know folks before launching upon lynching eposodes. oh! by the way, welcome to this most varied and colorful family......locos not withstanding.

d w martin

patriarch

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karion says on May 30, 2009, 16:31:

And, along those lines, Robert Jorge, I apologize for confusing you with another login. That was a total asshole move on my part and a dumb mistake, and one I didn't realize until a few minutes ago.

I am an idiot, the blame is all mine, and I am sorry.

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karion says on May 30, 2009, 16:51:

dwmte7 and others, again, I assure you that I am not a former troll or a banned member, and if you are in Bogota the week I am there, I will buy you a cold beverage and you can see for yourself.

Look, I was an asshole last night. One troll started with me, and the login was kind of close to the login of another. I didn't pay close enough attention and confused the two of them, which is an embarrassing mistake. It was the internet equivalent of getting drunk and insulting one of the hosts and I am now horrified.

It is one thing to misspell Candelaria, then frijtangas, but quite another to be a dick to a trusted member, all because I thought I was smacking down a former troll who was doing the very thing this thread was trying to quell.

The moral of the story, as it always is, is to be cautiously polite to strangers, and to pay attention to names. Again, RobertJorge, I am really sorry. I confused your login with someone else's, and while the breadcrumbs of their posts are now gone, the two were kind of similar, I promise. In any event, I am really sorry and apologize for the confusion.

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Pappassito (☼Travelguide writer) says on May 30, 2009, 18:06:

dwmte7 says on May 30, 2009, 18:25:

young lady.....forgiveness is infinite....you're in good, albiet crazy, hands. join in, join hands and kiss the past goodbye. we've only had a few souls who bore grudges...we shot them. now, all's cool. just keep smiling, greet all with goodness and there'll not be a rough day in your life. (ojolla)

peace.
douglas

patriarch

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Robert Jorge says on May 30, 2009, 18:34:

No more apologies needed Karion. I understand the misunderstanding. Thanks to everybody who had my back. I still stand by what I said, "I like you Karion."

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Robert Jorge says on May 30, 2009, 18:40:

I thought Elsapo was that Medellin Mansion guy.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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goin_south says on May 30, 2009, 21:10:

pbh... a bastion of confusion. jajajjjjajajjjajaja

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Catfish35 says on May 30, 2009, 21:21:

All's good with me...And the Lion will lay with the Lamb....

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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dwmte7 says on May 31, 2009, 08:05:

who's 'layin' the lamb?

patriarch

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karion says on May 31, 2009, 10:37:

Robert Jorge, you are a gracious individual and I thank you for your kind forgiveness. And I like you, too.

Look, I get the suspicion and the witch-hunt stuff and I don't begrudge any of it. I'll put my money where my mouth is and will buy any of you folks a cold, refreshing beverage when I am in town, as the resources here freaking rock.

And I was a casebook example on why you don't respond to trolls. I knew I was being targeted by a determined troll (again, it was the "moderators here suck thing" that tipped me off), and STILL responded. Sofa king stupid (US phrase, say it out loud).

But honestly? Be proud of this joint. There is more good than bad, and there is a vast database of stuff to learn, and yeah, you get your share of trolls, but mostly? Really well done.

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Catfish35 says on May 31, 2009, 11:26:

Me, The Lion,

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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RichardAshby says on May 31, 2009, 14:32:

What's a troll?

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Leeroy says on May 31, 2009, 15:22:

Most here spend more time talking about this forum than about Colombia

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Leeroy says on May 31, 2009, 18:18:

:) Good one

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Rocco81 says on May 31, 2009, 21:31:

Who cares enough about trolls to post this much chit about them..other than someone like myself who will post to criticize those who post about trolls..if that makes any sense.

Karion, why are you so quick to go buying all these strangers beers? And if, as you say you have Ovaries how can you be ballsy? Are you a hermaphrodite?

Sic semper tyrannis

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goin_south says on May 31, 2009, 21:59:

..if that makes any sense.???

No.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Catfish35 says on May 31, 2009, 22:41:

Karion...Tell us a little bout yoself...let us in on you some..inquiring minds want to know..Are you live or are you Mammorex?

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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RichardAshby says on Jun 1, 2009, 03:15:

No really . . . what is a troll?

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goin_south says on Jun 1, 2009, 11:23:

what's a troll?
Aren't they the little men who live under the bridge?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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karion says on Jun 1, 2009, 18:28:

Catfish, I am your dream girl or your worst nightmare.

I am a cute, smart, funny chick who lived in Bogota for two years. I take few things seriously and apologize often. I hate being at the center of attention but sometimes, I achieve that.

Oh, and yes. I really am an attorney. One of the nice ones. We are an endangered species.

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whitewidow says on Jun 1, 2009, 18:56:

catfish, he is your dream troll or worst gay fantasy.

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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Catfish35 says on Jun 1, 2009, 20:11:

I am up for a feisty know it all cute attorney...

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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whitewidow says on Jun 1, 2009, 20:11:

do you have something against gay people, kurious?

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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whitewidow says on Jun 1, 2009, 20:18:

it's settled then, majestic.....

the majestic is a SNL ripoff......

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 1, 2009, 20:56:

Sometimes I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone. I am going to get back to reality and Wii bowl and get drunk on Budlight. Night ya'll.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Catfish35 says on Jun 1, 2009, 21:31:

Sometimes I feel like I'm going down...to the whippin post. Down to the whippin post!

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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goin_south says on Jun 1, 2009, 21:35:

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 1, 2009, 21:49:

Well, my last roomate - the other I had to kick out for not paying rent - kicked my ass at Wii bowling. He was bowling 235 and chit. After 2 games, I called it quits.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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la campiña (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 1, 2009, 22:11:

Buongone says on Jun 1, 2009, 23:53:

So how long do these newbies have that put by their names?

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RichardAshby says on Jun 2, 2009, 12:02:

Seems after three posts regarding the subject, and over thhirty responses, I am still none the wiser as to what a troll actually is. Informative, this place. Hahah aha ah

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Rocco81 says on Jun 2, 2009, 12:08:

RichardAshby are you Poor But Snappy by any chance?

BTW - If any of you do a basic google search on "Troll" you'll be well satisfied.

Sic semper tyrannis

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 2, 2009, 12:08:

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion (wiki)

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 2, 2009, 12:13:

What is an Internet Troll/ Forum troll?
An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" or "Message Board Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.
----
Finally, trolls create a paranoid environment, such that a casual criticism by a new arrival can elicit a ferocious and inappropriate backlash.

When trolls are ignored they step up their attacks, desperately seeking the attention they crave. Their messages become more and more foul, and they post ever more of them.

Alternatively, they may protest that their right to free speech is being curtailed.

http://www.curezone.com/forums/troll.asp

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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whitewidow says on Jun 2, 2009, 13:25:

troll - see medo

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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From Planet Earth says on Jun 2, 2009, 13:44:

I'm a "newbie" but again I have been booted out of this place a couple of time in the lst 18 months or so.....am I still considered a troll?!

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Catfish35 says on Jun 2, 2009, 14:01:

Yes...next!

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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RAAAY says on Jun 2, 2009, 15:07:

I think Catfish likes you..............

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jun 2, 2009, 15:41:

Catfish35 says on Jun 2, 2009, 15:46:

How do you know this RAAAY? You are truly Clairvoyant !

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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whitewidow says on Jun 2, 2009, 16:13:

clairnnoying? what the felk are you speaketh about?

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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thedreamer says on Jun 2, 2009, 19:17:

that's why there are no newbie around...

Colombia, the only risk is wanting to stay

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Catfish35 says on Jun 2, 2009, 19:41:

Oh Boy is correct..the real oh boy question is who are they, really?

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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Catfish35 says on Jun 2, 2009, 20:12:

The gods must make that judgement..you know that!

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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Catfish35 says on Jun 2, 2009, 21:25:

Yes it has waned a bit here of late..

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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goin_south says on Jun 2, 2009, 22:49:

Kurious: "How long can one expect to enjoy the "newbie" status??"

K, ... I told you once: I have been a member here for over four years, now... and ........
..............THEY STILL TREAT ME LIKE A NEWBIE/TROLL.
Get use to it! jajj

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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finarina says on Jun 3, 2009, 12:38:

reading this thread....there are several questions asked by people(how long do you have newbie status etc) which are continually ignored in favour of specualting as to which of us is gay, or whether beers need to be bought to verify whether or not people are trolls......can I make a suggestion? perhaps answers to people who are asking legitimate questions would be better than ignoring them and leaving them out in favour of in jokes and pointless smalltalk? i don`t want to offend anyone but it just seems unfair!

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Catfish35 says on Jun 3, 2009, 12:45:

FINARINA
You sir, are correct! I apologize. I am not quit sure exactly how long "they" determine when your no longer a Newbie or not.

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Jun 3, 2009, 12:47:

I don't know either.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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RAAAY says on Jun 3, 2009, 13:10:

hmmmmm............ I wonder if finarina is gay.??

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Catfish35 says on Jun 3, 2009, 13:13:

RAAAY,
You sir, are correct ! I am not quite sure of Finarina is gay or not !

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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RAAAY says on Jun 3, 2009, 13:33:

I think you are correct about me being correct.........

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Buongone says on Jun 3, 2009, 21:20:

Why then even have the little newbie sign by their name if you cannot tell us how long that newbie sign stays with them?

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goin_south says on Jun 3, 2009, 21:29:

because... it's a Warning.
(that their could be a troll aboard! jaj)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Jun 3, 2009, 22:15:

Special "K": Let me remind you, lest you be illusionary: UTOPIACOWBOY Writes Everything on PBH.

EVERYTHING.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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lpdiver says on Jun 4, 2009, 03:21:

Help me! I am being drawn to the dark side!!! After six years of only posting under this name I am begining to see the whys of the dozens of others here that post schizophrenically!!!

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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Catfish35 says on Jun 4, 2009, 19:47:

Very Good LP...I too am starting to feel the pull of acquiring a Multiple Personality Disorder !

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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whitewidow says on Jun 4, 2009, 19:58:

me, myself and irene. we're a million different people from one day to the next...

I'm no doper! I just play one on TV.

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Catfish35 says on Jun 4, 2009, 20:38:

If I were you I would also watch Whitewidow also..I understand that he is a real cracked pot.

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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karion says on Jun 4, 2009, 21:22:

I am now absolutely certain I registered here at the worst possible time,

The offer stands to meet me in person and evaluate whether I am a figment of a troll's imagination. karion at gmail. I arrive in Bogota on the 16th, and am there until the 22nd.

Internet people just don't scare me. The crazy ones show their crazy up front, and the ones to really fear don't have the sack to leave their house.

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goin_south says on Jun 4, 2009, 22:04:

I'm about 97 years old, but I like this video! carrrrambita.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Jun 4, 2009, 22:34:

I listened to the kinks song, but then.... .. knew I'd be given my anciencia away

Now, imagine a couple of Elmo's barrio girlz dancin in the background... (to ruin the video!) jajj

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 5, 2009, 01:46:

Karion, no women uses the word "sack" in reference to a scrotum, as casual language in American English. You just outed yourself.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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karion says on Jun 5, 2009, 04:45:

It must be a little exhausting to speak with authority on behalf of all women who speak the casual language of American English.

For the record, I use the expression colloquially, not literally, although this last time, I am making an exception, after the fact.

Yes, too many commas. I know.

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goin_south says on Jun 5, 2009, 04:57:

"don't have the sack to leave the house"?

huh?
(good call, RJ)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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dwmte7 says on Jun 5, 2009, 05:44:

holy moly! if only there was as much interest in 'oldbies'

d

patriarch

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finarina says on Jun 5, 2009, 08:36:

Oh my god, the more I read the funnier I find this! hahaha yeah, sorry Karrion, I am a girl, I have met many girls from many countries and I have never heard ANY of them EVER use the phrase ´enough sack to leave the house' like.....OUT!!! hahahah I occasionally use ´that person has balls´or ´front´or whatever...but sack? nooooooooo!
oh, and as an Englishwoman, and an English teacher, don´t even get me STARTED on ´American´English! lol

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Catfish35 says on Jun 5, 2009, 10:14:

LOL DOUG!
And KARION, being somebodies "Huckleberry" is NOT a compliment. In the old times this term was used to call somebody out, or stand up to somebody. As Doc Holliday used in Tombstone. In other words, someone could say."I'll take your challenge" or I'll be your Huckleberry" is the same..

However, if I get down in time, I really do not care if your big, small, have one or two balls, woman or man one leg to stand!
I'll sit down with anybody will to listen to my woes..and buy me a drink. So in that regard, I too will be your Huckleberry !

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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goin_south says on Jun 5, 2009, 10:50:

why not?
Maybe it would be a BETTER IDEA
to have the desi-gnation... jjej... .. of "Old Fokn Poster".
Or,... "Fokn Old! Poster".
Which would you prefer Sir Douglas?

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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karion says on Jun 5, 2009, 13:15:

Okay, folks, I yield the floor on this topic. I thought I was wise enough to the internets, but clearly, I am a young grasshopper that has much to learn about attempting to join an established community.

Two things: first, this site is really an amazing resource and, while I just discovered it while researching the trip to Bogota, I gathered that you were often harassed by formerly banned trolls. I lurked and read for a while, thought I got a sense of who and what was up, but made a gloriously bad misstep by confusing logins and all credibility was shot to hell. But, I guess my point is

2. Really, not everyone is a troll or a formerly banned member, and that is the point of this whole thread. Sometimes, we are genuine jackasses who misspell things and confuse logins, but our intentions are great.

3. I had no idea that the use of the phrase "has the sack" would instigate such suspicion. Sadly, I use it a lot, among friends, and it never occurred to me that it would be perceived as an internet "tell"* of my gender. I'll say it for (hopefully) the last time, but when I get to Bogota, I will post the place to meet up and you can decide for yourself whether my occasional (often) swearing should deprive my of my girl parts. I will post it in this thread, as I made a jackass out of myself right here.

*the use of "tell", in parentheses, was my version of internet humor, as most people only think guys play poker, and while I fully admit I suck at it, I am a girl who plays poker. I am also a girl who occasionally uses the phrase "sack the fuck up," but I never intended for it to be any kind of a feminist statement. It is just vulgar discourse, which sometimes amuses me.

4. This went beyond two things. Math is hard (DO YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE? MADE A GENDER JOKE?). But really, I learned a lot from reading your old conversations and threads and for that reason alone, I cannot be pissed off. I really do apologize for any missteps, and that apology is unqualified, but you should know this: not everyone is a formerly banned asshole, looking to stir up drama. Sometimes, we are our own brand of assholes.

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karion says on Jun 5, 2009, 13:44:

Oh, and also Catfish?

I am nearly 90% certain that I have never used the phrase "I am your huckleberry." For the first point, it had no meaning to me (until you schooled me). I don't use phrases I don't understand.

But, and I am busy at work, I recognize that maybe you used it in a post that referenced me, and I might have ignored it, or worse. If I saluted one of your posts that called me a hucleberry, I apologize.

Sometimes, I wish the internet came with validations. I sort of believe you can do that on your own, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. The folks who kinda sorta think maybe I am not [insert returned troll] now know differently, the moderatorrs know my IP address, and shit, I am really done about defending myself on this.

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Catfish35 says on Jun 5, 2009, 14:34:

I would still love to be your Huckleberry, u lil' Calabacita!! ( Lil pumpkin). I like you, whoever you are! And my offer stands to drink with you whoever you are still...
Go lightly into that goodnight and grasshopper!

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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lpdiver says on Jun 5, 2009, 16:28:

So Senor fish you into that bromance out in utopiaville eh? Senor grasshopper died while masturbating the closet.

ts

Remember what the monkey says, "Fuck money it's free"

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dwmte7 says on Jun 5, 2009, 18:54:

just curious lp.....how does one "masturbate the closet"? anything to do with 'coming out'?

patriarch

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goin_south says on Jun 5, 2009, 21:19:

""clearly, I am a young grasshopper "".......

EN TRIBUTE A KEITH CARADINE...
WHO bit the dust yesterday.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Jun 5, 2009, 21:41:

gracias, amor. David!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Jun 5, 2009, 21:52:

In Tribute:

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Catfish35 says on Jun 5, 2009, 22:20:

Yes...Some say he died of what may be called a Chinese Or Oriental Orgasm.
I handled a scene like this while I was a cop. Often people hang themselves in this fashion accidentally. While masturbating they tie something around their neck to restrict the flow of oxygen to the brain. The idea is to bring yourself to the point of passing out exactly the same time you orgasm. Many times this goes awry. The people pass out and literally hang themselves by passing out and not being able to untie themselves. This is actually somewhat common unfortunately.
I fond it very strange Carradine was in Thailand, (land of the pedophiles) hanging out in a closet, with a rope around his neck!

Now, Karion, you may still want to pursue the life of grasshopper..just let me know when you get up to the point where you do this to yourself. I would like to watch!

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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Catfish35 says on Jun 5, 2009, 23:18:

I still cannot believe KUNG FU broke like that. I mean taking his own life. or by indulging in the sins of sexual pleasure. Either way, what would Master think about him? About this? Could not he have just raised his arm sleeves and reflected how hard it was to burn thos dragons into his forearms? Should not that have been enuff to pull him thru?

Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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billyb says on Jun 6, 2009, 00:01:

He was making a movie there. Is there any insinuation on your part regarding him being in, as you call it, the land of the pedophiles?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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