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I realize that the previous thread was closed after it wandered off ranting into the wilderness (not without having spouted some prophetic wisdom), but I just wanted to offer a few more suggestions.

If the goal is to increase signal and decrease noise, than turning PBH into a pay site may not be the best way to go about this.

First, it forces every member of the group to make a calculus about how much access to the site is worth. Some members who have been very helpful only show up once in a while (generally because they are leading productive and fulfilled lives) and by charging for the site you will lose many of them.

Second, why would knowledgeable people pay to inform the less knowledgeable? By charging a fee, you will restrict PBH to those for whom the site is an important source of social interaction (whether through pre-school bickering or otherwise), OR to those who need an answer to a set of specific questions, because those are values folks are willing to pay for. But you would be far less likely to attract those who simply want to others a good turn by offering up some helpful experiences, or 'experts' who already have all the information they need.

Instead, why not disaggregate utilitarian/technical information on this site (of which a great deal already exists) from the common warp of more or less entertaining spew, such as information on legal issues, medical and health, specific travel questions, etc, and stick it in a sidebar where it can be accessed for a fee ($5 one time, $9.99/m). Any member whose helpful comment gets posted to this sidebar would have one free 'access point' credited to their account. This would encourage helpful contributions, because everyone likes to have 'credits' and people would start competing to have their comments published on the pay sidebar.

This way, people who are looking for serious answers to specific questions don't get shoved in the sand box with the hair-pullers, AND you incentivize useful behavior.

By gatogris on Nov 4, 2009, 12:48 in About PBH Forum.

vicshere says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:35:

PAY hahahahhaha too funny

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:38:

I would pay for in a comedic fashion to read what, DavidyAmiga y Greg Yawn have to say.. jajajajajaj lol...

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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barrumundi says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:39:

Good post gatogris. I agree with you......but I think the mods should now close this post before it becomes another sandbox full of hair-pullers.

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/uploading-photos-for-dummies/

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jimbo67856 says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:48:

Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:38 (today): flag

"I would pay for in a comedic fashion to read what, DavidyAmiga y Greg Yawn have to say"

Dude that comedy is already free! I think the old saying is "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" In a weird way it seems to apply here.

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. ---- Thomas Jefferson

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:52:

jajajajajajajajajaaj, lol

"PAY ATTENTION! I wonder if that person knows that when we push the FUNNY button, its because we are reading something outrageous, trying to be cynical, derogatory, sarcastic and/or obnoxious!"

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jimbo67856 says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:55:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man, what'd I tell ya PCL? The best things in life really are free. I swear.

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. ---- Thomas Jefferson

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aztec says on Nov 4, 2009, 15:01:

I wouldn't pay for pbh and I can afford it.

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jimbo67856 says on Nov 4, 2009, 15:05:

Dude, go back and reread the thread. I didn't even say what you've attributed to me. And dude, spare me the net tough guy talk.

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. ---- Thomas Jefferson

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jimbo67856 says on Nov 4, 2009, 15:10:

BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Dude, check out the fact that that post reads as follows:
jimbo67856 says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:48 (today): edit flag

Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Nov 4, 2009, 14:38 (today): flag

"I would pay for in a comedic fashion to read what, DavidyAmiga y Greg Yawn have to say"

Do you see anything in there that might, just might, suggest I didn't write the name portion? Well, for starters, dude, there's the quote marks. Those suggest a quotation of someone else. Now I don't want to hold your hand through the whole lesson, but there's another very conspicuous pointer in there. See it, big guy?

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. ---- Thomas Jefferson

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davidyamiga says on Nov 4, 2009, 15:18:

PCL...see what you have done? You got GY all uptight and angry.

Otra vez en casa...Cali!

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gamm2 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 15:30:

What is wrong with you Greg? I don´t remember you acting like this before....

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barrumundi says on Nov 4, 2009, 15:53:

Greg......why don't you shred jimbo's last name?

You can call him 85667 or 67586.....

The point I am making is that you (GregYohn) have made the mistake of putting your real name on a public forum.

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/uploading-photos-for-dummies/

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 4, 2009, 16:00:

I think Gloid is correct. Yohn! is a plant to try and bait people into getting fishbowled or deleted. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but how can somebody be so dense and argumentative? Did Colombianblog kick Yohn out?

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Corey3368 says on Nov 4, 2009, 16:39:

Dear GregYohn,

Greg if it is okay with you I would like to give you some advice that I hope you find helpful. Let me start by saying I have enjoyed reading many of your posts from the time you were building onto your home , hearing your wife was pregnant, to the birth of your son. I really believe you have a lot of knowledge to share and that you enjoy helping others with useful information or advice.

As far as people attacking you or harassing you whenever you post, well that isn't right at all. But Greg stop feeding into their attacks. You are playing right into their hands. I am sure they enjoy seeing you get upset and watching you respond. Remember, Those who anger you control you. I like to try and keep this in the back of my head because it keep me from losing my temper most of the time. Whenever someone makes a nasty comment remember "It's a small thing to a Giant."

Yohn at times you bring it on yourself. An example would be the article that was posted about the mail order bride from China. you shouldn't of even made a comment that it was posted in the wrong section. Yohn who cares if it was posted in the wrong section. You had nothing to do with this post and should of just let it go and move on to another post. The site has moderators ( who have a thankless job) to make that call.

I hope you take this post as someone that only wishes you the best. Hope you continue posting and don't sweat the small stuff.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 17:12:

GregYawn.....give it up, dude...what a crybaby you are...i bet your kid is more mature than you......please, take your meds before posting, KY.....thank you! the WS is on....toodles!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 17:13:

btw, dont like the game, take your ball (?) and go home.....remember that one?

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Corey3368 says on Nov 4, 2009, 17:54:

I tried

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 17:56:

Where is that frickin GONG button????????

GGGGGOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Papi de Alejo says on Nov 4, 2009, 18:01:

For the record Greg, you have written on this forum many times about your flipina ex. Don't know what you wrote to Brians, but reread some of your own comments and you will see what you wrote. I even remember the choice 4-letter name that you ascribe to your ex. I don't know her so I would never have called her that. You did.

As Corey3368 wrote above, give it a rest. Don't sweat the small stuff.

Live simply... Love generously... Care deeply... Speak kindly...

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 18:17:

All i remember is how GregYawn always described his Filipina ex as a PUTA....and he complains about people talking shit about him?? jajajjaa....that is classic KY.....

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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jimbo67856 says on Nov 4, 2009, 18:19:

Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 17:56 (today): flag

"GGGGGOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Careful dude. Next thing you know he'll say you're making fun of his name and flip another chit. ;)

Errors of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it. ---- Thomas Jefferson

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 18:27:

Some people were born with their panties permanently in a bunch......and never figured out how to change them. or could be a faulty DNA gene......something for the shrinks to research, i think.

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 18:46:

... i see this thread took a wrong turn right out of the gate ... i wonder why...??? ..... PHI 1 / NYY 4 bottom of the 5th ... 0 out ...

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 18:52:

..... PHI 1 / NYY 5 bottom of the 5th ... 1 out ... changing pitchers ...

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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babygirl says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:01:

Oh my LORD.... again? Why man why?

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:03:

... boggles the mind ...

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:08:

HOLA!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:10:

HOLA! .......... PHI 3 / NYY 7 top of the 6th ... 1 out ...

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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billyb says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:14:

Are we witnessing a slow motion meltdown? One that will take a couple of weeks to play out?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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babygirl says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:15:

hola!!!! que tal?

Best quote of the week... "should I be taking this pill with wine?" Canadian Girls Kick Ass!

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:16:

... i hope it doesn't take two weeks ..... but it looks like it could even take longer ...

Hola bg!

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:20:

... PHI 3 / NYY 7 bottom of the 6th ... 0 out ....... did't AntiEverything predict Yankees in 6...?

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:20:

It like watching a volcano start to give off steam....jajajajja

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:23:

... and i guess i'm just perverse enough to want to watch the eruption .....

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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billyb says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:26:

"... and i guess i'm just perverse enough to want to watch the eruption ....."

Me too. Maybe Peter could charge to be able to read the meltdown threads?

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:28:

Hola billyb!!! ... are you trying to get us back on topic...?

“The people using your software, even if you own it and pay for it, have rights and will behave as if they have rights. And if you abrogate those rights, you'll hear about it very quickly.”

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billyb says on Nov 4, 2009, 19:34:

Hola :) You know how I like to stay on topic!!!

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 4, 2009, 20:17:

Like Papi de Alejo said Greg, I also had no idea there was any communication between you guys (Brians) in the past. But being here for 4 years now, I can remember you calling your Filipina ex "PUTA,PUTA,PUTA". I also remember she wasn't the only one. (ex from overseas) But your information / confirmation about Brians kind of proves something, no? Why would his name come up? ....... unless there is truth to the story?

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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oldsalty says on Nov 4, 2009, 22:03:

A pay site? You could call it "For the Not Poor and Happier"

only an opinion, not leagal

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 4, 2009, 23:20:

Huskie, I'll be in Medallo from 11/22 - 11/25. Want to meet for a beer and conversation? signutn174 at cox dot net. I'll be with somebody whom you already met - or at least saw. Remember?

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 4, 2009, 23:24:

Just for the record, I would have PMed that, but the PM function doesn't work - sorry for the hijack.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 5, 2009, 10:49:

,,,

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 6, 2009, 12:13:

Greg, Greg, he only post that info because you accused him of divulging private emails between you and him. He was just making clear that he didn't and that the info other people knew about you was not because Brian divulging those private emails it was because you "solito" divulged that information. so he was kind of defending himself. Now that everything is clear can we move on.

A word of advice for everyone
Next time think twice what are you going to write on PBH, otherwise it will come to haunt you later on :)

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Papi de Alejo says on Nov 6, 2009, 12:49:

How can you possibly decide to trust any of the scores or hundreds of persons who pass through this forum daily? What about the potential uncountable individuals who can retreive this information simply by googling your name and any of a variety of search words?

Your expectation of privacy is unreasonable. Many of us do not post information about our families; I know that I don't. To make a point, I might refer to "the misses"; in the past I might have referred to her as Mrs. Papi or as Mami de Alejo. The PBH'ers on here that I have met have also met her. I have also met many of their significant others. They don't talk about mine; I don't talk about theirs.

You are well intentioned Greg and I can tell from your posts that he have a great pride for your son and a love for your wife that many would envy. Kudos to you. But keep it private or write in genaralities. We can understand what you say if you don't get into the details of your interactions with your loved ones.

Good luck to you.

Live simply... Love generously... Care deeply... Speak kindly...

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 6, 2009, 12:53:

Greg,

You really need to be careful what you post on the site. It's not really a matter of trust amongst PBH members. Not only are your posts available to anyone that views PBH, but they are indexed and cached on Google and other search engines. If you don't want your comments to be public, don't post them. If there are any past comments that have personal information that you'd like removed, let me know and I will discuss it with the other mods.

Please don't start a huge fight with others over something as unimportant as someone poking fun at your name. You are really being oversensitive about that. Now if you see others posting insults or personal attacks that are really over the line, then please flag the comments or contact a mod and we will deal with the comment and the poster.

I'm so hip, I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Nov 6, 2009, 13:27:

GGGGGOOOONNNNNGGGG! Enough of this clown.....Please DELETE his account....PUT HIM OUT OF HIS MISERY! HAVE COMPASSION WILL YOU MODS?????...this is a classic negative spiral!

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Nov 6, 2009, 13:31:

OH My God this is fustrating!

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Papi de Alejo says on Nov 6, 2009, 14:15:

Greg, if I ever meet you, I would be happy to look at your pictures and videos of your son. In the meantime, curious as I may be, I wouldn't post it and I advise you to keep it off of the internet as well.

Live simply... Love generously... Care deeply... Speak kindly...

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emerson_wylde says on Nov 6, 2009, 17:09:

OK, which response is more likely?

Greg says: "Brians, how dare you accuse me of being in Austin when YOU KNOW I DONT LIVE IN AUSTIN!! I have never even been there yet you attack me and say that I am some kind of student in Austin. That is not nice Brians and you are breaking the rules of the forum!! And then you attack me more and say I took some picture in front of the Co-op - maybe because co-ops are in lower estrato. Not only have I never taken a picture in front of any "Co-op" I WOULD NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM VERY INTERESTING!!! So STOP ATTACKING ME!"

or

Greg says: "Brians, I don't appreciate you saying I am an irresponsible parent -- I realize you are just trying to give me a "heads up" about the dangers of the internet - but I am comfortable with the decisions I have made regarding that. Just because we see it differently doesn't make me irresponsible."

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emerson_wylde says on Nov 6, 2009, 18:27:

I'm already lost buddy -- lost and confused.

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emerson_wylde says on Nov 6, 2009, 18:38:

So I guess, technically speaking, you are trying to piss me off??

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emerson_wylde says on Nov 6, 2009, 18:46:

Not British -- does that mean I don't have to piss off?

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